@J Rogers I do waivers by myself because a) after spending thousands on "reputable" immigratiin attorneys who specialize in waivers, and after receiving two denials, I prepared the I-192 waiver myself two weeks after the last denial and was approved for a 5 year waiver. And b) nobody can tell your story better than yourself.

There are people (such as yourself) who have an enormous amount of experience and whom are highly knowledgeable in this area, and that's great; however, my questions are more about process and timelines as opposed to whether I've prepared my applications properly.

I appreciate your feedback and the valuable insight you provide to many on this forum. Decisions on applications for others have no impact on a decision made for me, as everyone's case is different.

I fully expect my I-212 application to be denied based on the fact that I'm applying so soon after being removed. I'm more interested in the timeline of it all based on your experience.

Any feedback you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.

@Denis9981

This is a very difficult and complex waiver because of the fact you have a 5 year ban, and the fact you RECENTLY overstayed.

The reason you need a waiver is 1% of their consideration. 99% is what you did wrong and 1.) how recent 2.) how egregious

For all of you who do waivers by yourself, here is how little Homeland Security cares about "why" you need a waiver.
1. Your Canadian. Why would they CARE about hardship from a person who isn't even American?
2. A story.

I had a client who lived in Denver and was quite wealthy. He was convicted of an offence and deported. Just a fraud. Anyways, his wife and kids were American and stayed in Denver. His son joined the Army and was being deployed in a "hot" zone. He applied for the waiver, and while he was awaiting the result, tried an "Advance Parole" to see his son BEFORE he deployed. Just in case.

This request was seen as "frivolous". His son deployed. 3 weeks, later? Son DEAD. Waiver was denied.

So when you fill out an application, ask yourself "is this a bigger deal that my son being killed as an American Soldier?" If not, then realize WHY means very little.

@J Rogers So, with your experience, should my application be going towards a denial, it typically takes longer for them to make such a determination? Overall, the actual reasons as to why I even require both waivers are rather "frivolous", if that term can even be rationalized when it comes to immigration law. I was removed due to a 3-month overstay and was handed a 5 year ban. I own companies in both Canada and the USA, and my livelihood is heavily dependent on frequent travels to the US which I've evidenced in my waiver application. My overstay was due to an assumption that my I-94 was valid for a period of six months, as was the case with my prior 33 admissions to the USA. This time it was issued for 5 days, which didn't make much sense considering my return flight was booked for three months later. I understand that length of time since the removal weighs heavily on an approval, however, have you seen cases be approved without a considerable period of time between the removal and waiver application?

@Dennis if you were removed last year, I would assume they are going to deny your waiver. (without knowing the details of course this is just a guess) so the answer is going to take awhile. It will not be fast.

@Gerry65 I completed my biometrics at the Massena, NY port of entry.

@Dennis Where did u do your biometrics ?

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@denis9981 Where did u do your biometrics

Hello,

On October 5th I completed my biometrics for both the I-192 Waiver and the I-212 Waiver:

As of right now, here are the statuses:

I-192 WAIVER:

10/5/2021, 07:30 PM MDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
10/2/2021, 03:03 PM MDT : Status changed to Paid
10/2/2021, 03:02 PM MDT : Status changed to Signed
4/14/2021, 07:13 AM MDT : Application Created

I-212 WAIVER:

10/5/2021, 07:30 PM MDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
10/2/2021, 07:03 PM MDT : Status changed to Paid
10/2/2021, 03:12 PM MDT : Status changed to Signed
4/14/2021, 11:52 AM MDT : Application Created

Please note, I have previously applied for the I-192 waiver through E-safe which took 10 days to get a 5 year approval. Last year I was "removed" from the US for an overstay which is why I now also need the I-212 waiver.

My question: It's been 20 days since "submitted to ARO". Will the process take longer because I require both waivers? Would they both be approved or denied at the same time, or are they completely separate from one another? Just curious if anyone has any experience with the submission of both waivers.

Thanks so much.

@Terri

They don't contact YOU. You contact THEM and make an appointment.

@J Rogers I live in BC and holding of on submitting my forms on esafe... it's all ready to go, but the borders are closed... in your opinion, when should I send it and will they contact me to get my biometrics done?

This is a client who had his waiver denied. Serious record.

I am posting it to give everyone an idea of a timeline. They asked him for additional documents, he replied, then today we have a decision. Notice June 21st fingerprinted at the border, and it took almost 3 months to gather documents needed.

After that, 29 days for an answer.

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10/20/2021, 03:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/21/2021, 03:18 PM EDT : Status changed to Request for More Information Response
6/30/2021, 03:35 PM EDT : Status changed to Request for More Information
6/21/2021, 10:01 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/14/2021, 04:29 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/14/2021, 04:21 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/14/2021, 03:23 PM EDT : Application Created

My most recent waivers, notice the last 3 are faster than the 20 days I had been seeing. Trend? 21 days, 17, 14, and 13 days. So these 4 seem to indicate its getting faster again.

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10/18/2021, 10:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/27/2021, 07:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/16/2021, 11:50 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/16/2021, 11:49 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/16/2021, 11:20 AM EDT : Application Created

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10/18/2021, 02:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
10/1/2021, 09:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/27/2021, 03:44 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/27/2021, 03:42 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/24/2021, 11:12 AM EDT : Application Created

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10/19/2021, 12:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
10/5/2021, 02:02 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/24/2021, 11:26 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/24/2021, 11:24 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/14/2021, 11:03 AM EDT : Application Created

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10/19/2021, 03:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
10/6/2021, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/7/2021, 03:32 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/2/2021, 03:50 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/2/2021, 11:33 AM EDT : Application Created

SOME RECENT WAIVERS.

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10/12/2021, 08:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/21/2021, 11:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/17/2021, 11:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/17/2021, 10:58 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/8/2021, 03:16 PM EDT : Application Created

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10/13/2021, 10:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/22/2021, 01:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/16/2021, 02:17 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/16/2021, 02:16 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/1/2021, 03:16 PM EDT : Application Created

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10/13/2021, 03:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/27/2021, 11:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/20/2021, 04:01 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/20/2021, 03:59 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/20/2021, 11:18 AM EDT : Application Created

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10/14/2021, 06:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/16/2021, 05:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/14/2021, 09:32 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/14/2021, 09:31 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/7/2021, 02:17 PM EDT : Application Created

My most recent 5 year waivers, including the one I posted before it.

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9/28/2021, 11:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/15/2021, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/13/2021, 05:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/13/2021, 04:48 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/8/2021, 02:12 PM EDT : Application Create

Completed
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9/28/2021, 02:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/8/2021, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/30/2021, 04:58 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/30/2021, 04:56 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/26/2021, 01:39 PM EDT : Application Created

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9/28/2021, 04:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/9/2021, 12:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/7/2021, 04:28 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/7/2021, 04:27 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/1/2021, 02:04 PM EDT : Application Created

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9/28/2021, 01:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/14/2021, 07:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/7/2021, 03:50 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/7/2021, 03:48 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/30/2021, 04:40 PM EDT : Application Created

I am not sure if this is a fluke, or the beginning of a trend. I will see when more come in. Only 13 days from Fingerprints to 5 year waiver.

This is a re-application, and a client who got a 1 year before the pandemic. Now she has a 5 year.

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9/28/2021, 11:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
9/15/2021, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/13/2021, 05:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/13/2021, 04:48 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/8/2021, 02:12 PM EDT : Application Create

9/24/2021, 10:34 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed - First time waiver, 5 years!!!
9/14/2021, 01:00 PM EDT: Status changed - required more documents - wanted to know if I paid restitution (was not requested or required), submitted proof same day.
8/30/2021, 11:18 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO (because I had to wait out 2 14 day non-entries because I traveled to Europe)
7/26/2021, 03:03 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
7/26/2021, 02:59 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
7/26/2021, 12:02 PM EDT : Application Created

@John, September letter..Congrats to you and your client..that is great news....

SEPTEMBER LETTER!!!

2 OFFENCES FROM 1992
Dangerous Operation of a Motor Vehicle Causing Death
Dangerous Operation of a Motor Vehicle Causing Bodily Harm
(Pardon was granted and he was NEVER denied entry)

Notice 25 days or so seems to be the "normal" processing time.
This is my first September Letter since May 2021 when the Border started taking Waivers again. So as I suspected, they still will give them out when warranted.

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9/17/2021, 01:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
8/12/2021, 04:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/11/2021, 09:58 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/11/2021, 09:55 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/10/2021, 04:41 PM EDT : Application Created

These 2 are very different but granted recently.

The top one is his 4rth waiver, 3rd 5 year. Simple minor offence from the 80's Note the timeline is 25 days from fingerprints being done.

The bottom one is a long time client who had VERY serious charges and in 2010 was rejected for a waiver. He had a sentence of 12 years for making Meth n the United States. We waited, re-applied before the pandemic, 1 year waiver. He re-applied and now has his 5 year waiver. 27 days for him.

I am now telling clients about 25-30 days from fingerprints to completion.

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9/13/2021, 10:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
8/19/2021, 11:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/12/2021, 03:26 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/12/2021, 03:19 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/10/2021, 02:33 PM EDT : Application Created

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9/8/2021, 02:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
8/12/2021, 09:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/10/2021, 02:17 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/10/2021, 02:11 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/9/2021, 04:38 PM EDT : Application Created

@Ashley

John Rogers
PWE SERVICES
Pardon and Waiver Experts / On the SPOT Fingerprinting
96 Kennedy Road South
Suite 201
Brampton On
905-459-9669
pardon.experts@rogers.com / pweservices@rogers.com
www.pweservices.com

My cell is 416-843-1371 for texting.

@J Rogers can you provide contact info