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HatsBootsHats

@Jazzsax

I don't buy into any of these guys like John Rogers or Ken Scott.

Getting a waiver is pretty straightforward. You need some time to pass and provide some strong character letters. Some people want to enter the US right away but unfortunately it doesn't work like that.

John Rogers wants business and charges 500$ or probably more. You can save the 500$ and do everything yourself. I have provided more info than John Rogers in my previous posts. It is through my own research. I am hurting his business and he is the one that's being vindictive. I believe someone that behaves in this matter is not a true professional.

If someone can't complete a waiver on their own than a guy like John Rogers could be of assistance. Other than not, it's really a cry for help from John Rogers to get clients. This forum was created for people who do waivers on their own not for people who charge to make waivers.

I don't really mind what John Rogers thinks of me. For me, he is very entertaining. I just can't wait to read his next comments. I should probably thank him for all the laughs.

Samuel

@JOHN ROGERS

As per your comment #941 I felt you made some salient and cogent points regarding the issue of racism. I can respect that and appreciate your thoughtfulness.

My experience (in this particular case) I felt was blatant racism on the part of the officer. (I've been on this end too many times that it easily becomes recognizable to me whether "coded" or not).

As for that being a factor in the adjudication of my waiver I sincerely hope it's not going to be the case.

I'm going to put this question to you and michelle (and whoever else wishes to weigh in)...

I just now revisited the documents that CBP handed to me (I haven't looked at them in overs a year or so) and I just noticed something in them.

I was given a document titled

“Withdrawal of Application for Admission/Consular Notification”

In reading that document it says (and I quote exactly)

“...and departed the U.S. on 07/13/2015 (14 DAY OVERSTAY). Subject was a match and overstays as a 9B2 charge that cares (sic) a 10 years bar until July 14, 2019.”

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I'm not sure how to square the above because if I was given a 10 year bar how is it only in effect until July 14, 2019. That's only 4 years from the date I was barred.

Any thoughts on this?

JOHN ROGERS Trusted

HatsBootsHats

“If you look at a previous posts on this forum, you will find a link about DHS changing rules about first time waiver applications to 5 years in 2016.”

Suddenly you can not procure the source, because you made it up. You may have even read it from a post I wrote. But keep backtracking. Your credibility died a while ago. You couldn't STOP cutting and pasting a while ago, but now you can't be bothered. Why?

I am actually here to HELP people who want to do it on their own. You are here to PRETEND you know it all because you helped ONE person do an application once, that wasn't even a waiver. You love to listen to yourself talk, thats clear, but the people here want actual help that is ACCURATE. If you want to counter points based on something you read, please do. But remember people like me actually DO this for a living, and are paid to make sure clients GET what they pay for. I am not making 'guesses' based on 'something I think I read".

This is whats dangerous about your advice. Not the advice that a person could do the waiver on their own, because for many on this board,. they already do that. Your advice on waivers is incomplete and in many cases wrong. Its "free advice" but clearly this is a case of "you get what you paid for".

JOHN ROGERS Trusted

Samuel: A typo maybe? Possibly a 5 year bar?

My advice would be to try a waiver application after the date given. (2019) Of course if unsuccessful you would be 'risking' the $585. But if you cannot wait 10 years this might be a chance that you were given a 5 year ban, not a 10.

Its not a common enough occurrence for me to tell you if it would work or not.

Michelle Trusted

@Samuel #962...It could be a typing mistake that should of being 5 years instead of 10 like John says..or it could mean that the charge could receive a 10 year ban, and they gave you a earlier date which is good. Because there is a what I think an expiry date on your ban, I think you could start your paperwork in December of this year, by the time you gather everything and deliver to USA, that expiry date will be very close. Worse case, you lose your $585 US Funds and whatever you pay out either doing it yourself of hiring a professional..However, it might be better then waiting 10 years, when you didn't have too..If you were my client, I would review this and make sure you know the risks before starting as I am sure John Rogers or Ken Scott would too.

JOHN ROGERS Trusted

Uty110

Fingerprints are 2-3 weeks (average)
Homeland Security 90 days (85% of clients)

Typically 4-6 months for most clients. Motivated clients possibly 4 months. Not in a hurry? 5-6 months.

This is a 'typical' case. If someone had charges we wanted to wait for court documents for, this could extend the time.

I want to point out this isn't "John gets waivers faster". Michelle or anyone else could do it within this timeline. Fingerprints are fast right now, and Homeland Security is pretty fast too. Obviously a certain % of people on here are waiting much longer than 90 days, but thats not typical.

Samuel

@JOHN ROGERS
@michelle

Thank you for your replies.

If it was a typo then it seems like quite an odd typo. It was calculated at 4 years which is quite strange (as no official 4 year bars exist to my knowledge) and as I think a typo would at least have said 202? (something) and been calculated in 5 or 10 year increments.

I've also read (and apparently this is a little known fact from my understanding) that CBP agents have quite a bit of discretion and don't have to follow the 3 and 5 and 10 year bar calculations in the strictest sense. (have you ever heard of this discretionary power btw?)

The agent that typed this document up and signed it was actually the one agent who seemed to treat me with a great deal of respect (he actually wanted to let me go) and he was a little put off that the other agents in Secondary were so rude and disrespectful to me as I did absolutely nothing in any way to warrant that kind of treatment -(I'm your stereotypical over-polite Canadian -lol).
I'm thinking there's a possibility that he knew he couldn't completely stop me from getting barred (due to the other agents) but possibly wanted to cut me some sort of break by only typing in a 4 year bar.

At any rate if I file a FOIA will this have possibly been changed (readjusted) or will the FOIA show the exact same thing the documents the CBP gave me shows?

One other thing - @JOHN ROGERS you suggest I should wait until after the 2019 bar date has expired and @michelle you suggest I should file a waiver 6-7 months BEFORE the 2019 bar date ends. (as per the date on my documents). I'm guessing it takes AT LEAST 6 months (best case) for a waiver to be processed.

I know you both are professionals and incredibly helpful but in all honesty what would you suppose the MOST prudent thing for me to do where this is concerned?

BTW the only date of expiration on my documents is 2019 (as per what I quoted in comment #962).

I don't wish to take any chances and while I know I'm probably intelligent enough to file a waiver on my own I'd rather use a professional to get it done properly.

CJ Wallace

Hello,
I am driving down to Edmonton AB from Grande Prairie to apply for an I-194 entry wavier I was convinced marijuana cultivation Jan 31, 2000, it is the only brush with the law I have ever had as far as documents with my application I have my court documents drug test recent pay stubs along with recent property tax receipt 3 character references letter from my employer 2 pieces of photocopied ID along with payment is there anything I am missing that I should bring also and what are my chances of getting a 5 year waiver?

HatsBootsHats

@John Rogers

I don't make waivers for a living so I don't have a credibility to lose. I do help others make waivers on their own however. The information I provide is accurate and I can post links but that would be redudant. All the info is provided on the thread. You know this very well but as you state you have a business to run so I kill your business. Only difference is that I do it for free 😁. As for credibility, yours died a long time ago when you made a fool of yourself on here with Ken Scott. There's no more to add.

Take care.

JOHN ROGERS Trusted

HatsBootsHats its clear you don't do waivers for anyone, because they would have been pissed that you missed specific forms (G325a) and you already told the truth which is that you helped one person do an application that was not a waiver. So now apparently your lying on top of being inaccurate. Your having no effect on my business whatsoever and I guarantee no one is asking you to help them with your waiver.

CjWallace make sure
1-192 (2 copies)
G325a (4 copies)

You didnt mention a personal letter. Make sure you take the time to write a good one, claim you no longer use narcotics and that your sorry for your part actions. As well, give details about the offence.

Samuel - Michelle and I were saying the same thing, I think she was just advising some "lead time" before you hand the waiver in. You want the waiver prepared and ready to go BEFORE the date you are planning n handing it in.

Where do you live? City?

michelle Trusted

@Samuel #968, Yes, I will clarify in more detail my timeline, and again this is how it goes in Saskatchewan, and my process, which might be different then others. Its just how I do things...I always quote a 4-6 month time line to my clients for me to gather up the proper documents to complete your application. The Court Houses here are extremely slow, for example, Prince Albert Court House takes 6 months to 1 year to get certified copies..and the RCMP can take up to 4-6 weeks to get your criminal record back. Some companies do not include court documents, I do otherwise your paperwork here would not be accepted...just what happens here...So, regardless of where you live, I would process your application like I do all applications. So if you started in December 2018, by the time I would have your paperwork ready to go to USA, I would say April 2019,..(I can't find the exact date they gave you)...but once your expiry date hit, you could then go and deliver your completed package. I think your best choice is to deal with someone where you live, as we have noted, the rules, and timelines vary from each province.

michelle Trusted

@CJ Wallace #969....Do you have the G-325 and I-192 forms? Also, you must have a current RCMP Certified Criminal Record Check, marked for Travel and within 15 months of verification date. Your personal Letter describing your conviction? These are all things, my clients must have to deliver their paperwork..Again this is my process...As I quote to my clients, waivers are granted for 1, 3 or 5 years..you should be prepared for 1 year the first time, and when you reapply you get a 5 year. If you get a 5 year first time, go buy a lottery ticket...LOL...

Samuel

@JOHN ROGERS
@michelle

Once again thanks.

One of the things I mentioned in my post #968 was this:

“I've also read (and apparently this is a little known fact from my understanding) that CBP agents have quite a bit of discretion and don't have to follow the 3 and 5 and 10 year bar calculations in the strictest sense. (have you ever heard of this discretionary power btw?)"

Have either of you heard of this before and would a CBP Officer have the discretion to have given me a 4 year bar as stated by the expiry date in my documents?

One other thing - Am I correct in assuming that even after the date of my bar expires I would still need to file a waiver anyway as I can't just show up at the border and expect to be admitted even though the date of the bar has passed?

michelle Trusted

@Samuel #975, I actually advise my clients the CBP Agents have quite a bit of discretion and use it, especially the small POE around here, where they are 50 miles in the middle of no-where....Yes, you are right, you will need to apply for a Waiver after the bar is expired.

Samuel

@michelle

Thank you.

One other thing:

If the CBP Officer did use his discretion and actually gave me a 4 year bar as indicated by the expiry date on my documents is there any great possibility that when I apply for a waiver that his discretion could be overridden and the folks who process my waiver turn it into a true 10 year bar or do you think they will respect the discretion the CBP Officer used in my particular case?

Michelle Trusted

@Samuel #977, good question, yes, in my opinion, it is possible that Admissibility Review Office may deny your waiver application and state that you must wait the 10 years. They will review all paperwork you submit, they will also do their own investigation into your case and make their decision from there. I have had the Review Office, come back and ask for information that my client never told me about..such as a Pardon, gang affiliation, ect..so nothing surprises me..Hopefully, you have some documents that you received from the CBP Officer when they issued the bar. Copies of this paperwork should be submitted with your application..John Rogers or Ken Scott, your thoughts?

jazzsax

Ken Scott too busy being #thuglife to reply to anything but making fun of John. :)

Samuel

@michelle
Once again thank you for your input.

michelle
(And/Or anyone who wishes to weigh in)

If you file a waiver and it is denied do they provide the reasons it was denied?
In addition if they deny your waiver application will they explicitly tell you that you need to wait the ENTIRE period of your bar or will they let you know you can file a waiver again?

It seems that if they don’t tell you that they’re just trying to take $585 from you again and again.

Also how many years of tax returns are required for the waiver applicant to put in their waiver application? Would 3 years be sufficient?