Handing in Waivers -Quarantine and timelines - Post here

J Rogersposted 3 years ago

Post real application stories here. Not "A guy told me" or "a few of my clients" but specific client experiences so others can see accurately what is happening.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on December 8, 2021 @ 5:00 pm ]

There are rare exceptions, but whether you file a waiver, or a waiver AND an I-212 you simply get a waiver in return. That's why I tell clients to wait. Its an extra $930USD for the exact same waiver.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on December 8, 2021 @ 5:01 pm ]

Sorry, that was meant for the response below

[ J Rogers appended this reply on April 28, 2022 @ 1:52 pm ]

Client #2 entered the United States illegally in 2010.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on January 26, 2024 @ 11:29 am ]

Sorry June 14th, not 16th.

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Hi there! Any timelines available for people that recently submitted to the border ? (After march29) just to get an idea for myself…

BobbyD replied 2 years ago   #200

When I went to certify my application,I couldn't because I never uploaded any record of court documents for my conviction.I wrote that my conviction was so long ago I couldn't get any court documents and uploaded that. This is my fourth application for a waiver and never have submitted any court documents before.

wheatpool replied 2 years ago   #199

@wheatpool Sweetgrass MT 406-335-9610 x 550 Sunday, Monday Wednesday Saturday 9am-6pm

I actually am getting a lot of Alberta clients recently, (referrals) and so I had to verify this.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #198

I submitted my esafe form yesterday and phoned Sweetgrass which is my nearest port of entry.

They take appointments on Sunday,Monday,Tuesday,Wednesday.Wish they have direct line to the supervisor that makes the appointments.Didn't have my esafe submitted when I called he said I should submit it right away.

wheatpool replied 2 years ago   #197

@GH123 Are you inadmissible? Applying for an I-212 is usually in ADDITION to the I-192

Neither is faster or slower. Its technically the same. If your using a lawyer, count on this taking a LONG time as he hires someone like me to do the actual work while making you pay inflated fees. I'm a waiver expert. Lawyers are not.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #196

@J Rogers which one takes less time, if I only applied for one? The other lawyers I spoke to all said I only need I-212

GH123 replied 2 years ago   #195

@GH123 YES.

But what also happens is my timelines are a bit different. For example I rarely apply for both at the same time. So if you applied for both, it would be faster. They approve the I-212 first, THEN the I-192. But it can be fairly quick.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #194

@J Rogers Is there a difference in processing times between the I-194 and the I-212 waivers?

GH123 replied 2 years ago   #193

Here are some recent ones, just to give you some timelines.

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3/21/2022, 10:22 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
3/4/2022, 08:30 AM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
3/2/2022, 08:53 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
3/2/2022, 08:51 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
3/1/2022, 09:29 AM EST : Application Created

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3/21/2022, 10:22 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
3/4/2022, 12:30 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
2/28/2022, 09:35 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
2/28/2022, 09:34 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
2/25/2022, 01:46 PM EST : Application Created

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3/24/2022, 09:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
3/2/2022, 12:30 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
2/24/2022, 09:52 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
2/24/2022, 09:48 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
2/24/2022, 09:27 PM EST : Application Created

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3/9/2022, 10:00 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
2/22/2022, 04:21 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
1/27/2022, 04:08 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
1/27/2022, 04:06 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
1/27/2022, 09:47 AM EST : Application Created

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3/28/2022, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
3/4/2022, 02:00 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
2/28/2022, 09:16 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
2/28/2022, 09:14 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
2/28/2022, 08:59 PM EST : Application Created

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3/25/2022, 01:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
11/16/2021, 04:30 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
11/11/2021, 02:55 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
11/11/2021, 02:52 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
10/26/2021, 03:30 PM EDT : Application Created

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3/29/2022, 06:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
3/7/2022, 04:00 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
3/3/2022, 04:10 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
3/3/2022, 04:09 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
1/27/2022, 10:27 AM EST : Application Created

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4/4/2022, 07:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
4/1/2022, 03:15 PM EDT : Status changed to Request for More Information Response
1/20/2022, 02:00 PM EST : Status changed to Request for More Information
1/14/2022, 12:30 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
1/5/2022, 04:21 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
1/5/2022, 04:19 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
12/10/2021, 10:51 AM EST : Application Created

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #192

@J Rogers Thank you very much

rae24 replied 2 years ago   #191

@Rae24 No mail any longer. You download the coy to your computer, and save it in one other place as well. Then print out the 2 pages. You need to present the two pages every time you cross. You can obviously now make and use copies.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #190

My timeline

Status History (5)
3/28/2022, 11:00 PM GMT+1 : Status changed to Completed
3/2/2022, 09:30 PM GMT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
2/17/2022, 08:06 PM GMT : Status changed to Paid
2/17/2022, 08:02 PM GMT : Status changed to Signed
2/8/2022, 03:02 AM GMT : Application Created

5 years

@J Rogers I received a PDF file of my waiver. I just want to ask if that PDF copy is the one I need to print and bring it every time I go to the US? or they are going to mail the original copy?

Thank you very much.

Rae24 replied 2 years ago   #189

Exception to the rule. This client only got a 1 year waiver, and the result took MONTHS. Nov 16th went to the border, almost 5 months to reach a decision.
-1st waiver granted. Had a waiver rejected in 2018 (not done by me)
-Convictions spanning form 1973 to 2013 mainly stealing merchandise from retailers.
-minor drug charge as well

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3/25/2022, 01:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
11/16/2021, 04:30 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
11/11/2021, 02:55 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
11/11/2021, 02:52 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
10/26/2021, 03:30 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #188

@Magnus

Yes absolutely. 2-3 weeks for re-applications, 30 days generally for first time applicants. Guidelines only, not in every case.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #187

@J Rogers
Is there generally a different timeline in how long it takes for waivers to be processed/granted between first time applicants and those who are doing second, third, etc waivers?

For first time waiver applications how long do you figure it takes for a waiver to be granted from the time biometrics are done at the border for “minor” offenses (overstays, etc…)?

Magnus replied 2 years ago   #186

@Jimmy

Sounds like you have a sexual assault conviction or something similar.

This is a very difficult waiver, so bear in mind if you are doing it on your own, the personal letter has to be VERY good. I would be shocked if a person with little to no experience wrote a decent letter for an offence like this. Its not just expertise, your trying to not defend yourself, while hitting all the points they want to see on the SORNA chart.

-age of victim is VERY important. Go to the police force who arrested you and see if you can get the police report.
-8 years ago is a relatively short period unless this is a very minor offence.
-go to the probation office, the jail, wherever you served your sentence or did programs. I have had clients with much older records get psychiatric evaluations, letters from counsellors, etc.

My advice? This is NOT a DYI project. If you get assessed as a Tier III offender, you could literally make it impossible to EVER get a waiver.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #185

I applied for a waiver and got an information request. They are asking for proof of the ages of the victims but the official court records don't contain that information. They are also asking for proof of any programs completed, but those programs were completed over 8 years ago through my probation officer and I don't have the paperwork.

Jimmy replied 2 years ago   #184

2 RECENT ONES The timelines are pretty good. Both are re-applications. 15 and 16 days after being at the border.

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3/10/2022, 02:30 PM EST : Status changed to Completed
2/24/2022, 09:00 AM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
2/22/2022, 02:49 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
2/22/2022, 02:45 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
2/22/2022, 02:16 PM EST : Application Created

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3/21/2022, 10:22 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
3/4/2022, 08:30 AM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
3/2/2022, 08:53 PM EST : Status changed to Paid
3/2/2022, 08:51 PM EST : Status changed to Signed
3/1/2022, 09:29 AM EST : Application Created

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #183

Since I like to brag about September Letters and successes, its only fair I also talk about waivers that are NOT successful. In these cases I always warn the client that a rejection is likely and we are fighting an uphill battle. Also, I re-do the application for free, which to me is only fair.

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3/17/2022, 07:25 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
10/29/2021, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
10/28/2021, 10:20 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
10/28/2021, 10:18 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/29/2021, 02:12 PM EDT : Application Created

Note the longer, much longer timeline.
Here is the "math" on this rejection. 42 convictions, mainly shoplifting over an 18 year period. ! "serious" conviction where she drove her boyfriend somewhere and he shot someone. 1 marijuana possession. Last conviction 2016.

We did have a letter from Elizabeth Fry and a letter from a Doctor in the US saying her father has terminal cancer. The letter I wrote was 6 pages long.

They commented on everything, as usual, but the main point was 42 convictions over an 18 year period were not mitigated by an 'instant" application 6 years later.

I have a few sexual assault waivers pending right now, and I have had 1 success as I detailed on another post. I am VERY interested in seeing the results and will keep everyone in the loop. One is a person deemed as a Tier III offender, so very "unlikely" to be successful, but we will see.

J Rogers replied 2 years ago   #182

@Michelle

Same fee, the main reason I use esafe is quicker response time and once the waiver is approved you can print it and go to the border rather than wait for it to arrive in the mail.

Kiwi

Kiwi replied 2 years ago   #181

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