Handing in Waivers -Quarantine and timelines - Post here

J Rogersposted 1 year ago

Post real application stories here. Not "A guy told me" or "a few of my clients" but specific client experiences so others can see accurately what is happening.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on December 8, 2021 @ 5:00 pm ]

There are rare exceptions, but whether you file a waiver, or a waiver AND an I-212 you simply get a waiver in return. That's why I tell clients to wait. Its an extra $930USD for the exact same waiver.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on December 8, 2021 @ 5:01 pm ]

Sorry, that was meant for the response below

[ J Rogers appended this reply on April 28, 2022 @ 1:52 pm ]

Client #2 entered the United States illegally in 2010.

Replies (recent first):

This info is collection of paperwork timeline for my e-safe client:

Jan. 25 - fingerprints sent to RCMP
Feb. 24 - Received RCMP results
Feb. 26 - Court request sent to Montreal
June 10 - received court docs


As you can see gathering the documents takes some time - please keep this in mind when applying for a Travel Waiver. Thanks!

Michelle replied 11 months ago   #33

I am happy to report my first e-safe client, keep in mind this timeline does not include gathering of paperwork.

June 28 - Client pickup paperwork from me.
June 29 - filed e-safe - paid USA Fee
June 30 - Went to Portal, ND - no appointment - advised he filed e-safe, they looked up file - fingerprinted him
July 2 - received email advising file received and being worked on
July 6 - received email waiver - 5 years.

No quarantine for Canada - however, he was told that "rule state if you leave vehicle - you are suppose to quarantine" but they let him go as rules are changing soon.

History of client: He is a truck driver - very old charges, no pardon in place - he has been previously denied 2 times. This is his second waiver - he did one previous, not with me. First waiver was 1 year. Has been several years since he has done a waiver.

Michelle replied 11 months ago   #32

@J Rogers
First time waiver but should be as close to a "slam-dunk" as possible...at least according to my lawyer since its not relating to a criminal conviction/pardon. Hopefully it's just a first time + west coast thing since I've read from previous waiver processing threads that some folks took up to 30 days to get a response.

I can update this thread once I do hear back

admt replied 11 months ago   #31

@Admt

I need a bit more info. Was this a first application? Slam dunk or marginal? I have 2 waivers, tough ones, that are still pending from early June but I expected that and they both got a "request for more documentation".

I don't have any on the West coast that are pending or handed in since they started taking them so I have no idea if this is a "west coast" thing or just you.

I would say ask Ken but I doubt he has any real waivers handed in since they started taking them to be honest. If he does, maybe he could post some timelines here so we can tell.

You can call me at 416-843-1371 or text and we can see if we can figure this out.

J Rogers replied 11 months ago   #30

clarification: I mean I did my biometrics at the poe on the 15th and promptly got an email from CBD saying that the ARO is in receipt of my application but it's been radio silent since

admt replied 11 months ago   #29

@J Rogers Are all your clients based in Ontario/Quebec? I dropped my waiver in on June 15th at Blaine Washington PoE (Pacific Crossing) and I haven't received any updates yet.

admt replied 11 months ago   #28

Look at these crazy timelines. 5 days for waiver to be granted after Fingerprints done at border in 2 of these examples. That is INCREDIBLY fast.
All three are 5 year waivers.

ARO Decision
Please review the documents
Status History (5)
7/6/2021, 06:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/28/2021, 03:28 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/24/2021, 03:42 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/24/2021, 03:40 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/24/2021, 03:14 PM EDT : Application Created

ARO Decision
Please review the documents
Status History (5)
7/6/2021, 10:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
7/1/2021, 12:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/29/2021, 05:28 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/29/2021, 05:21 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/29/2021, 04:52 PM EDT : Application Created

Documents Shared With You
ARO Decision
Please review the documents
Status History (5)
7/6/2021, 10:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
7/1/2021, 11:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/15/2021, 04:51 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/15/2021, 04:48 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
5/11/2021, 08:37 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 11 months ago   #27

Another fast one, re-application, 5 year waiver

ARO Decision
Please review the documents
Status History (5)
7/2/2021, 09:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/24/2021, 03:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/21/2021, 05:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/21/2021, 04:57 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/19/2021, 12:39 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 11 months ago   #26

Ok. This lady has had 2 - 1 year waivers. But her offence is old, although it is drug related. Why the 1 year? Well she lives in Niagara Falls, and when she was there to be fingerprinted, Homeland Security told her husband she is considered "high risk" because she travels to the US far too often, and they suspect she overstays.

Fix? well she is going to document her coming and going for the next year, so we can "prove" she obeys the rules. 8 days to a decision for this one.

Status History (5)
6/30/2021, 03:35 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/22/2021, 10:56 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
5/21/2021, 02:28 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
5/21/2021, 02:26 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
5/20/2021, 02:57 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #25

Look at this one. A woman, from a 1 year to a 5 year. 9 days!!!!

ARO Decision
Please review the documents
Status History (5)
6/29/2021, 09:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/21/2021, 10:02 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/14/2021, 03:08 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/14/2021, 03:05 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/14/2021, 11:11 AM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #24

ARO Decision

Please review the documents
Status History (5)

6/28/2021, 03:28 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/14/2021, 10:24 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/8/2021, 04:45 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/7/2021, 06:11 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/7/2021, 05:26 PM EDT : Application Created

Here is one where I copied and pasted the "ARO decision" part as well. This one was a 14 day wait, which is a bit slower than what we have been getting recently.

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #23

@Ken

Thank you for the vague and "general" information. But I notice....no examples of any of YOUR clients going to the border. Does that mean you have none?

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #22

This topic will soon be irrelevant after the rules change in July. All people have to know is that Canada MAY OR MAY NOT make you quarantine after you reenter the country after filing your waiver. All you guys have to do is just call 1-800-461-9999 and ask if you need to quarantine. These rules will likely be changing in July anyway. This topic is not rocket science.

Ken Scott
Senior U.S. Immigration Law Intelligence Analyst
www.usentrywaiverservices.com
888 908-3841
604 332-9213

K SCOTT replied 1 year ago   #21

So the quarantine uncertainty continues. Some clients have been able to beat it, but a small group (all women) have been getting self quarantine.

This is an email one of them got when they applied for an exemption.


The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) is committed to limiting the spread of COVID-19 in Canada, while facilitating travel and trade.

The Quarantine, Isolation and Other Obligations(QIOO) Order in Council (OIC) entitled Minimizing the Risk of Exposure to COVID-19 in Canada Order (Quarantine, Isolation and Other Obligations), has been made pursuant to section 58 of the Quarantine Act. The QIOO has effect for the period beginning on May 21, 2021 (11:59:59 PM) and ending on June 21, 2021 (11:59:59 PM).

This order requires any traveller entering Canada, unless exempt, to isolate for 14 days if they have symptoms of COVID-19, or to quarantine (self-isolate) themselves for 14 days if they are asymptomatic. There are circumstances under this Order which may be considered exempt from the 14 day quarantine, but they are purposefully limited.

Based on the description of your travel and information provided, we have determined that the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) has deemed you exempt from quarantine. Please retain this correspondence as confirmation you are exempt from quarantine for your trip dated 21-JUN-21.

As a reminder, if you have COVID-19 symptoms, you must isolate for 14 days, regardless of this exemption. Possible symptoms of COVID-19 can be found by following the link entitled “symptoms of COVID-19.”
Due to the overwhelming number of requests received each day for removal from quarantine, PHAC will be notified however clients may still receive emails or calls. While this may be an inconvenience, the global pandemic of Covid-19 has created unprecedented challenges. While we can understand the difficulties faced by individuals and businesses alike, the travel restrictions are in place to protect the public health of all Canadians.

So she was exempted.

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #20

Two more. Both 5 year waivers. Both re-applications. Both had 1 year waivers from other companies. I got them 5 year waivers.

6/24/2021, 10:31 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/11/2021, 01:04 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/10/2021, 05:02 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/10/2021, 04:58 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/10/2021, 04:04 PM EDT : Application Created

6/23/2021, 12:01 PM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/8/2021, 03:33 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/4/2021, 02:51 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/4/2021, 02:49 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/4/2021, 11:55 AM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #19

Something Different. This person does NOT have their waiver yet, they got a "Request for additional documentation" with an 87 day time limit.

As you can see, I responded immediately (in 2 days) with 13 pages of documents. This is actually a very serious offence from 2017 so I knew it would require a LOT of work. The offence is serious, but the person has no prior offences, was barely 18 at the time, and has a lot of rehabilitation documentation. Note it took barely a month for Homeland Security to ask for additional documentation, much shorter than in the past. No mail means the request was received immediately, and we can respond immediately as well.

6/23/2021, 04:42 PM EDT : Status changed to Request for More Information Response
6/21/2021, 10:03 AM EDT : Status changed to Request for More Information
5/25/2021, 02:12 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
5/19/2021, 04:20 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
5/19/2021, 04:16 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
5/19/2021, 03:21 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #18

This male was the head of a Toronto gang and was actually convicted of something VERY serious but it was overturned on Appeal. Also various drug offences. I was shocked he got a 1 year before covid and now he has a 5 year waiver.

Status History (5)
6/21/2021, 11:38 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/9/2021, 02:03 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/8/2021, 06:03 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/8/2021, 06:01 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
6/8/2021, 05:26 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #17

I'm not posting every one granted, just a couple here and there.

This is a client who has had 4 waivers. Simple drug charge.

6/21/2021, 10:02 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/9/2021, 01:33 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/4/2021, 04:04 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/4/2021, 03:57 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
5/28/2021, 01:14 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #16

One of my favorite clients. 77 years old, been a client for like 20 years, dying to get back to his friends in Florida. Granted today!

See you in 5 years!

6/11/2021, 07:03 AM EDT : Status changed to Completed
6/2/2021, 10:04 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
5/27/2021, 04:46 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
5/27/2021, 04:44 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
5/27/2021, 04:08 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #15

Just an update for everyone.

eSAFE works incredibly well. The speed as you can see is unparalleled.

A typical waiver application works like this;

-Client comes to office, does fingerprints, gives basic information. Also gets a couple of documents to gather.
-2 weeks later, fingerprints are in. Client makes appointment to come back to office with documents.
-Clients documents are scanned. All documents scanned. Client goes home and file is entered and uploaded into eSAFE. They take all the documents WITH them
-Client is told file is completed and either a) enter their payment into eSAFE or b)I will do it for them.
-Client then makes appointment at Niagara Falls. Usually they can go next day
-Once Fingerprints are done at Niagara Falls, waiver is uploaded into their eSAFE profile. They get an email indicating "your file has been updated" from Homeland Security

As you can see above, some files take 2 weeks. Some are as little as 7 days. I will give the clients the option when the border opens but I will encourage eSAFE to be the #1 choice.

As you can see, there is transparency here, and proof from ACTUAL clients that this works. This is why I am posting some of the "read-outs" so people can see actual results. Please let me know if there is any other information that is helpful.

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #14

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