Have You Been Scammed By a Lawyer or a Discount Waiver Company?

K Scottposted 3 years ago

This is a new thing that we are starting now since we are trying to build awareness regarding these waiver service providers. There are a number of Discount Waiver Companies and lawyers that have either scammed people or have performed very poorly for your money spent. We are now helping people either get their money back and/or help them fix the situation in regard to a bar complaint or whatever appropriate action is available by law. There is no charge for this service for people from the forum and we have been doing this new thing for about a month now. We only ask that you have a valid and reasonable complaint since honest mistakes do happen. We are mostly interested in egregious violations. We will only take complaints regarding waiver service providers in order of importance from Ontario, Quebec, Alberta, and BC. We do not mind if people comment here with a screen name but then email us since we will maintain your confidentiality.

[ K Scott appended this reply on July 4, 2020 @ 3:21 pm ]

Also, note that this includes all waiver providers in the USA.

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@KenScott

You sound ridiculous. And not sober. And that should be a concern, and I am not going to judge you, but please get some help.

I will clarify some things, because you repeat it all the time.

1. You clearly don't know where my office is. We established this because you were claiming that you contacted our "competitor" On the Spot Fingerprinting and had signed an alliance with them. Of course, that is my wife, you idiot. Same location. She is still waiting for your "alliance".

2. My kids shouldn't be a subject here, but the youngest is 14. No diapers. You have no children obviously.

3. You were drunk so don't remember the conversation. I was a utilities consultant in the 1990's. Not recently. And we analysed rates. The company has been around since 1933. They took us to Marbella Spain. It was pretty awesome. NUS Consulting they are called now.

4. Something happened to remove all mention of you from the companies website. You fucked up somehow which is why you block me from social media. It will come out eventually. Your completely full of shit so I am not surprised.

5. "The lady doth protest too much" sure sign of scammer.

6. Read former posts. You change your story so much its ridiculous. Its all right here, you are not to be trusted.

7. I apologize to everyone for this idiot. And wasting your time. I should not have encouraged dialogue with him, and I am sorry for that. I feel a bit like a bully actually, he is so easy to mock, but that's not acceptable either. I should just let him post and ignore him.

J Rogers replied 3 years ago   #9

@jazzsax1 you got pulled into this because this sweet guy aka J.R. suffered anal discomfort when I revealed that you were much more qualified to do waivers than himself. It was actually not intended to hurt his feelings though. Essentially, he is vehemently opposed to us helping people get their money back that were ripped off by Discount Waiver Companies and lawyers.

In his defence he implies that he tried to help people with this same issue that were ripped off by Dominion Pardons & Waivers. However, I just checked and see that their website is still up, and they are in business. So, he either made a false statement here, sat on his fart box and did nothing other than posting or did a pissed poor job helping the people. We already know that he did not have the courage to contact the management there to facilitate case closure.

If he did indeed do so, then I retract my statement and ask him to give me the names of the managerial staff that he corresponded with and I will get the job done. He also does not understand my absence on the forum is due to the fact that we way too busy and usually do not have the time to come here. The relevant masses are already aware of the new services that we are coming out with when the border reopens. No one here would care so there is no need to state them here. We are also in a better position to handle the Covid slow down

He also states/believes that I am in England and therefore have not been able to access the web and see the posts on the forum. He does not realize that we drove near his office about 4 months ago. He also does not understand that I do not have to be in Canada to meet clients or offer this new service since I have enough people at my locations working for/with me. I do not think that he is aware that w.w.w(World Wide Web) means that a website can be accessed anywhere in the world that does not have government restriction in place but has internet access. He does not realise how much he is helping me promote our services to people on the web by his comical but asinine replies here. He does not realize the money that we have made from his free marketing.

Every time he fights with me or anyone here it makes people want us more. They then believe me when I refer to jealous competitors. I did the same thing to the old guy that is married to Michelle's former boss. I called to thank him for the free publicity that he was giving us on his site bashing the September Letters. He was furious but I will not print his reply here since it may raise eyebrows.

These guys do not seem to get that they continually help us market when they give us this publicity and we get all of this exposure for free. The funny thing is that we mind our business and just work our cases since we could not care any less about them. They go out of their way to attempt to bash us, but it has resulted in free marketing. John does not understand that I have constantly printed copies of his asinine replies to people here and to me to use for marketing and writing research papers/online blogs.

I have even told him here on the forum around 2017 that this was helping us make money. Yet he still voluntarily continues to keep giving me free material and has shown people in the forum that he cares only about the bottom dollar and has limited knowledge regarding waivers and resolving border crossing issues. So, I have 2 questions for John here since he seems to like engagement.

1. How many free cases have you honestly done between 2018 and 2020 for people that needed the service but were down on their luck?

(I will go first and tell you that for us it has been maybe 12 or so. We are doing 1 for a girl now that wrongly got a 5-year ban and is down on her luck financially. I had to bring this up since John felt the need to highlight our fees.)

2. Do you deny the fact that you told me on the phone in 2017 that you are a Utilities Consultant?

In your defence I will say that there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a side gig. However, I find it difficult to understand how someone can portray themselves an expert in this field when their full-time position consists of helping people sign up for hydro, cable, and internet. I am currently polishing up my CV because I am looking to see if I can obtain a part time side position as an instructor in law at a certain university.

Honestly, it is mostly an ego thing for me to be able to add it to my resume if selected. I already posted the YouTube video on our channel of me conducting a seminar at Ashton College in Vancouver on border crossing issues. So, in your defence you can call this instructor position my potential side gig. The only difference is that it still relates to our industry.

3. May I ask what kind of training have you obtained in order wear the expert title?

My credentials are on our site and I say this since you will state there are inconsistencies if I list them here and missed a few. They will be updated when I get the instructor slot and eventually my JD. I also want to thank you for everything that you have done for us as previously mentioned since you have no idea how much you have helped my business.

I will pay you a sum of $5,000 - $10,000 in the future as a gift after I obtain my JD around 2023 or 2024. I feel that this is the least that I can do for you since you have helped us out. I ask that you please print this off and retain for your records as a reminder since I am a man of my word. So, I ask you to please ensure that you are on an equal or higher level when you decide to bash us again in the future since it is akin to an ant(you) accusing the Jolly Green Giant of being short.

Btw please do not use the same old tired ethics cliché. Yes, my lowest grades were in ethics and I have the ethics of a toad since I am known as the Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad in the waiver industry. I even wear a collar bar under my tie with my Armani suits. However, this is why I will eventually practice criminal law and thus will maintain a similar success rate defending clients from the government. WE GET THE JOB DONE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

I welcome a response so that I can add it to the collection.

[ KSCOTT appended this reply on July 9, 2020 @ 10:04 am ]

Let me cut you off at the pass John since you will say that a lot of this last post has nothing to do with helping people get their money back that were scammed by Discount Waiver Companies and lawyers. It actually does and I will explain why. The post is essentially breaking down the inner workings of the managerial staff of one of these companies. Simply speaking is that you are the break down and is an example of the why and how these companies operate. Everything from the competitive nature, poor delivery of services/info and holding the the dollar is the bottom line. An example is telling a vulnerable guy to drive to a closed border to attempt to file a waiver and already knowing that said border was closed...and that the guy stated that he did not want to risk losing his waiver. Trying to get a rapport with the guy since he is a boater in Ontario and you live in Ontario.

Anyway my point has been made here.

KSCOTT replied 3 years ago   #8

Oh man how did I get pulled into this?

Time for more wine and popcorn. LOL!!

jazzsax1 replied 3 years ago   #7

John you can say what you want but there are only glaring facts here....We are providing a free service here to help people retrieve their funds back that have been scammed by crooked Discount Waiver Companies and lawyers. You are obviously trying to prevent us from helping people get their money back. You are attempting to do this by constantly bringing up idiotic things that have nothing to do with the task at hand. Why are you so afraid of this service John and why do you want to stop people from getting the money that they justly deserve? It would be nice if you jumped on board and helped us with this task since we shockingly are getting a lot of behind the scenes support from people.

So again, it begs the question...Why would a "reputable" waiver provider knowingly be opposed to a service that would help people get their money back that were ripped off by crooked Discount Waiver Companies and lawyers? Why would a "reputable" waiver provider knowingly tell a person to drive to a border to inquire about waivers knowing that said border(s) are not accepting packets and the risk to the client of POSSIBLY receiving a 5 year ban and losing his waiver(depending on the circumstances)?

Especially when the client clearly stated that he does not want to risk losing his waiver. Why did you not offer him a safer solution such as asking him to retain counsel to inquire in regard to this case? Why do never answer these questions directly but then attempt to deflect to irrelevant things like gangsters, September Letters and such? Lol and you call me Donald Trump. smh

Well the answer to the questions are blatantly obvious. You support people getting ripped off and do not want the gravy train to stop for some unknown reason. You will do anything it takes to get money from people and dread any kind of litigation where you would end up being a defendant and having to pay a substantial monetary penalty. I get it since it is less money for diapers. You do not have the best interest of the client at heart and only care about the dollars.

You also do not have the financial or academic ability to deliver similar services as we provide and heavily depend on this forum for revenue. Again, we do not expect hardly anyone here to pay $1500-$15,000 for a waiver and we are fine with such. Sorry but had to make this clarification before you attempt to say we are trying something similiar... since you were nice enough to highlight our fees in a box.

Also, you do not know what Jazzsax does with his free time or what he is training to do. This is unless you are skilled in the use of remote Vulcan Mind Melding techniques I suppose. He is actually much more substantially qualified to resolve these cases that yourself.

Anyway, the purpose of the forum is information sharing by people that are interested in a us entry waiver. It is not a platform for you to facilitate passage of your penny ante political agenda. I do thank Michelle for speaking out and expressing her highly valued opinion. However, you do not have to hide behind the protection of a woman John and I have repeatedly stated that you are free to engage with me live in person, on air/our talk radio show, on our YouTube platform or telephonically if you have a disagreement.

So stop trying to prevent us from helping people get their money back that were ripped off by Ontario Discount Waiver Companies and crooked lawyers. You are wasting your time since we are going to continually provide this service for a 1 year trial basis. We will discontinue it if no one wants their money back and then John you won't have to worry about possibly getting a phone call from the Neanderthal and then ending up in civil court.

I will say that now this seems unlikely since we just another 2 calls from people that feel that they were ripped off by Pardons Canada. Mr. Ben Archer will reach out to them today and see if they are of any merit. Can you give me website John? We are www.usentrywaiverservices.com so we do not have the word pardon in our name. I need to know your company name for when people call since numerous Ontario Discount Waiver Companies have the name pardon in the heading and it is hard trying to distinguish between them.

If you have an opposing view then be a man and engage with me live on air so I can post the link for people to listen in. There you will have an opportunity to fully express your feelings and forum people can even call in for questions. Although then people will unquestionably see that the Latin words of "res ipsa loquitur" clearly refers to you since your actions thus far clearly speak for themselves.

KSCOTT replied 3 years ago   #6

Hi John and Ken, I think we are all on the same page, regardless of the approach, that we would like to stop the scammers.. We have all listed bad company names on here to educate people. Ken, good for you to tackle these companies head on. In past years, I have gotten into some good "arguments" with these company owners who have called me after I informed their clients "the truth". Most people enter into a legal agreement with these companies, hand over their credit card numbers, and as long as the company is providing some type of "limited" service, just emailing is considered "service provided", there is not much that can be done, at least this is what the BBB and Consumers Affairs advise. However, I am sure a good lawyer and dedicated service probably can help them. We all belong to Complaints against Federal Pardons Facebook page, and saw the end result of Federal Pardons shut down, and through out the years we have seen many big companies such as Express Pardons, and Canadian Pardons go out of business. So hopefully, this trend will continue. I am still hoping that one day the Parole Board of Canada and USA Customs will do some type of accreditation process similar to the RCMP for fingerprinting. In the meantime, this forum continues to educate people and has helped many either on their own or through one of our services.

Michelle replied 3 years ago   #5


They likely will not use us since our cheapest fee is $1500 and highest fee is $15,000+ depending on the case since we have a 98% success rate. I may then refer the waiver ones out to Jazzsax/Michelle but send you the Beavis & Butthead type clients.

This statement is blatantly false.

Then why do I have 3 of your former clients, none who paid near those fees, and all were promised "they would never have to do a waiver again?" Ask Michelle if she has ever had any of your former clients? She has.

Jazzsax doesn't do waivers. Again, attention to detail. He NEEDS a waiver.

Are there a lot of companies that are awful at doing waivers? Absolutely. Even "reputable" companies (like Allcleared) do a shitty waiver. They make the client do most of the work and do very little except "advise". That's not a "scam" but it is not acceptable either.

Ken, you only come on to the forum at certain times, because I don't think you actually live in Canada. But you missed the big Dominion Pardons fiasco when we were actually attempting to get someones money back. You can search for the posts. Lots of things happened when you were "away" in the UK.

You yourself are not truthful. I think you try and do a decent waiver, I would not call you a "scam". But you try to create a false persona, and that is deceptive.

Michelle is a one person show, but because she is honest, to a fault, and gives value for the service she provides, I recommend her highly. Her past experience with CPIC makes her knowledgeable, but she could have been a candlestick maker for all I care, as long as she tells clients the truth, and delivers on what she promises. She doesn't need to bolster her credentials or pretend to do complicated cases. She does SOLID work.

-knowledgable
-honest
-reliable

You do these three things, you don't need all the other stuff. You could market yourselves simply as "we only focus on waivers" and do all the podcasts you like.

But pretending you deal with gangs, to bolster your "cred" and to make it seem like you get "impossible waivers" so you can seem "better" is ridiculous and deceptive. Posting the first page from a waiver that was rejected, and the second page from an actual September letter to make it look like you got some person with a long record a September Letter is NOT ethical, or honest. You did that. And I caught you. So maybe I have been doing what you propose already.

J Rogers replied 3 years ago   #4

Quick update. Also want to add that apparently this is a needed service since 3 people have called from here after this was posted and do not want their names mentioned here. I want to say to everyone that we have selected a Toronto law firm and will engage with them today to see if they are interested in civil litigation of the cases.

We will keep you up to date as I receive new information. We already have a law firm in BC that can handle local cases and just need to now solidify firms for Ontario and Quebec. Please note that this project could take at least 6 months to go full steam and this service will make a number of waiver competitors angry.

One reason is that they either do not have or do not want to spend the revenue fighting this so they may just opt to settle with you or the lawyer. I am thinking this could maybe put some extra money in your pocket because of Covid since it is compensation that you may justly deserve if you have a preferably egregious and/or substantiated complaint.

KSCOTT replied 3 years ago   #3

Well John I am puzzled by your reply for a number of reasons. Apparently, I am at fault for not presenting it in more simplistic language for you to understand. I will attempt to clarify this topic for you. We have already started this service and have since helped people in Western Canada. We have the resources to accomplish this goal and I understand that you are lacking such since you are tied up with changing diapers and signing up new customers for utilities in Ontario.

I am trying to figure out your comparison of a September Letter and helping people retrieve their funds from crooked waiver service providers. I am also unsure where you read that we are only creating a list. Also, I do not understand your fixation of gang members. Please note that we do not need your consent to launch any of our services.

Also, you have no knowledge of our rates, so I am unsure what you mean by this statement. Also allow me to stop you since you are next going to say we are just trying to get paying customers here. You are again wrong (as usual) my good friend. Our rates are some of the highest in the industry and I do not expect anyone here to pay them and am fine with such. Hence, the reason why this service is free for forum members only. The person is free to choose whomever they like to redo their waiver.

They likely will not use us since our cheapest fee is $1500 and highest fee is $15,000+ depending on the case since we have a 98% success rate. I may then refer the waiver ones out to Jazzsax/Michelle but send you the Beavis & Butthead type clients.

Now John I want to thank you for doing 2 things for me that I could not have accomplished on the forum here without your assistance.

1. It is a blatant obvious that you have voiced your displeasure about the fact that a competitor is literally offering a free service to help people that were scammed by crooked waiver service providers retrieve their money. A reasonable assertion is that you indeed condone such behaviour and unquestionably indicates that you are part of the problem and support what happens to the people. Also note that anyone could pick up the phone, call competitors and offer to try and help people get their money back since this requires no special skills…so even you are qualified as such.

Why would a "reputable" waiver provider be vehemently opposed to helping scammed people get their money back? Why would a "reputable" waiver provider knowingly advise a guy to go to the border to inquire about filing a waiver when everyone on the forum clearly knows that CBP is not currently accepting applications? Especially when you know (or should know) the possible risk that this may entail to him in regard to getting a 5-year ban and losing his waiver. Could it be that the aforementioned provider does indeed know that the guy could get the ban? Could it be that the aforementioned waiver provider then hopes that the guy then comes back to him for a new waiver?

Hmmm I also note that you did not provide a safe suggestion such as asking the guy if someone like a lawyer could inquire on his behalf.

Why do you just want to sit around on your fart box, play pocket pool and attempt to debate instead of trying to help these people? A list of crooks is irrelevant since some people also need help navigating the maze of dealing with these companies. I have no issue in going up against these lawyers and waiver companies since this is my personality John and I get off on it. John, I sympathetically understand that you are frightened to do it but one day you have to eventually put your big girl pants(unisex) on and become an adult.

2. You bring up irrelevant topics that have nothing to do with the client helping service like gang members and September Letters. This right there speaks to your questionable state of mind and greatly reduced level of credibility. The USA borders would reopen July 21 and we could file waivers again If Covid 19 levels were dropping at a similar rate as your credibility level. Also, why do you care about my time at the academy anyway? Would it be because you did not have the academic ability to do it yourself? Also why do you care about our other services that we offer?

Well, I will help you out John by answering for you. You care because you do not have the financial resources nor level of knowledge to offer the things that we do. You have no clue regarding the new services that we constantly offer our clientele. I understand that you try to recruit clients here and I am cutting into your income stream, but this is actually not my intent. Put your email in a post here and I will etransfer you $200 - $1000 as a gift to help you out.

Anyway, I am not going to give you anymore airtime here since I have already offered it to you on our talk radio show. I think the real reason why this new service petrifies(look it up John) you is because of the high degree of probability that we will get a substantiated complaint(s) on you and you will see our number on your call display. Ontario though is our #1 market for this service since it is full of both crooked Discount Waiver providers and lawyers in the industry.

Also, John the person calling you and the other Discount Waiver companies at that time with the client will not be me... but will be the staff member that you refer to as the Neanderthal. I will be calling and dealing with the crooked lawyers mostly although may make an exception for you :). Anyway, just stand in line John since you are #5 of the Discount Waiver Companies and lawyers that do not fancy us. Lol

PS. Btw I agree with you that he is a Neanderthal.

www.usentrywaiverservices.com
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KSCOTT replied 3 years ago   #2

This is like Donald Trump "draining the swamp". Why would YOU be a trusted source to flesh this out? Michelle and I have already NAMED companies that we have come across giving awful service/being deceptive. "Discount Waiver company" yet you charge the same prices...again this in itself is you being "deceptive".

I can post a list and give you examples if you want, but remember that you have been the focus of criticism for promises you make. Do you really want a list created you might end up on? Should we talk about the fake September Letter? The "pretend" endless gang members? The pretend credentials? ("when I was in the academy") Creating a fake persona is just as "scammy" in my view.

Giving the impression that you will get someone a September Letter, and knowing they will simply get another waiver is pretty deceptive to me.

J Rogers replied 3 years ago   #1

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