character reference letters

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JOHN ROGERS (trusted member) Trusted

The majority of my clients are in Ontario, I send all Quebec clients to a colleague there, and I do a lot in BC. Thats partially because for months a company out there put my toll free number on their emails. I would inform them I was a different company, and when they started asking questions they realized I was about half the price. (Its not anyone who posts on this board)

So i ended up with quite a few BC clients. For all of my clients i advise 2 letters of reference. For anyone in Saskatchewan (I have none) or Alberta (I have a couple) I will advise 3 to be on the safe side. Obviously Michelle would know better than I about those 2 provinces.

michelle (trusted member) Trusted

@John Rogers #21, Thanks, there does seem to be different rules for different provinces, which is interesting...why I like Pardons better...I really only deal with Saskatchewan and a few Manitoba residents, however, I do have clients who will deliver an application to Calgary or Edmonton International Airport, so I need to stay on top of those POE. It makes sense that people want to deal with local companies..

JOHN ROGERS (trusted member) Trusted

Michelle probably knows that airport better than me.

I have only sent 2 clients there in the in the past 12 months. Both were reapplications and neither had court documents. They also had very old convictions.

michelle (trusted member) Trusted

@jazzsax, #23, If you were my client and going to Calgary, I would make you take certified court documents, again this is just standard practice for my service, no matter where you are delivering your paperwork. I probably send my clients with more paperwork than necessary, but I absolutely hate when a client gets their paperwork rejected because of something I did...it hurts business and drives me nuts..LOL..if you do it yourself..then you are on your own..

John Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

In Ontario we need 2 letters of reference. I have heard Michelle say they might need a different number out west.

Reference letters can be short if your waiver is a slam dunk. If its a first waiver or your not a slam dunk, then the letters should state that you have shown changes that coincide with your criminal history.

In about 40% of my clients cases I write these for them, with the person signing them.

Rupert

Sorry to dig up an old thread.

The reference letter is the last item I need for my first application. Someone touched rightly on this being the hardest part for a guy to get started. Does any of the waiver service providers scripted reference letters? I'd like to spend less time hand wringing over how to approach this than asking someone to sign something.

Thanks,
Dave

rae24

Hello Guys,

I am currently fixing the documents required for the waiver. My current situation is, I have no criminal record, I just overstayed and banned to enter. My question is do I really need to submit a character reference letter?

Im am currently working in the Canadian airport for 6 years now, passed the transport Canada security clearance, with RCMP and FBI clearance certificate. any information or suggestions is highly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance.

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@rae 24

Yes. Reference letters are needed. You NEED to show you know people here in Canada. Remember, their "assessment of you" is based on the fact you are a risk to overstay again if the waiver is granted. If you leave things out, your just hurting your chances.

Overstaying is certainly more concerning to them than some criminal offences.

rae24

@J Rogers Thank you very much for the information and I am certainly going to do that. I am almost complete on the supporting documents needed for the waiver application especially the strong ties here in Canada which is my current mortgage, regular full time job for years as well.

rae24

@J Rogers Hi, I just want to ask if you have no criminal record do you still need to submit A copy of the official court record?

Thanks

J Rogers (trusted member) Trusted

@rae24 When you say on the application "no" to having a criminal record, it should not prompt you for court documents. I have in the past used any documents that were given to the client for the denial of entry as "court documents", but no, if you don't have a criminal record, you don't even HAVE court documents to show.

94rad

Wrong, character references are no longer “needed” or required. Neither is proof of employment.

It is recommended you include both to help your application but we have done a few without both of these items and gotten waivers approved.

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