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J Rogersposted 2 years ago

Post real application stories here. Not "A guy told me" or "a few of my clients" but specific client experiences so others can see accurately what is happening.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on December 8, 2021 @ 5:00 pm ]

There are rare exceptions, but whether you file a waiver, or a waiver AND an I-212 you simply get a waiver in return. That's why I tell clients to wait. Its an extra $930USD for the exact same waiver.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on December 8, 2021 @ 5:01 pm ]

Sorry, that was meant for the response below

[ J Rogers appended this reply on April 28, 2022 @ 1:52 pm ]

Client #2 entered the United States illegally in 2010.

[ J Rogers appended this reply on January 26, 2024 @ 11:29 am ]

Sorry June 14th, not 16th.

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@Slothdude good luck with your application. I think a lot of recent post are for old crimes but i have read lots of old post on bans and John Rogers posts quite a bit on overstay claiming asylum and deportation as well. Go through the old post if you haven’t and I’m sure you’ll see something similar to your situation. Only denial I read about for ban was someone who had a three years and applied right away and didn’t get it because not enough time had passed but most I’ve read are successful applications some even 5?years.

DT replied 1 year ago   #599

Client was stopped with his GF and would not share his password to his phone. He is a personal shopper so I think they thought he was "working" in the US. He also has an impaired in 2014. We applied for the waiver, then they made him do an I-212. He is happy with the result, but expensive result for sure. $585USD PLUS $930 USD.

SEPTEMBER LETTER

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Status History (7)
1/19/2023, 08:30 PM EST : Status changed to Completed
12/14/2022, 01:02 AM EST : Status changed to Request for More Information Response
9/17/2022, 11:50 PM EDT : Status changed to Request for More Information
6/8/2022, 03:30 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
6/2/2022, 12:03 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
6/2/2022, 12:00 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
5/10/2022, 10:53 AM EDT : Application Created

I-212 - SEPTEMBER LETTER

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Status History (5)
1/19/2023, 08:00 PM EST : Status changed to Completed
11/15/2022, 12:00 PM EST : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
11/11/2022, 11:48 AM EST : Status changed to Paid
11/11/2022, 11:46 AM EST : Status changed to Signed
9/22/2022, 09:51 AM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #598

@Slothdude

The length of time overstaying is a definite factor. Overstaying 10 years, and you have waited for 5?

You might get a waiver, but I think at best a 1 year. Just a guess, without knowing the circumstances.

Your application hopefully made it CLEAR you no longer have ties to the US and "just want to visit". If you made it about "i need to see relatives" or "I have family in the US who are not in good health" those are red flags.

The waiver in YOUR case should be all about "I have no desire to ever live in the US again" and "I am very happy here in Canada".

Please share when you get your result. These ones are a bit tricky.

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #597

@J Rogers It seems like the processing items are picking up or is it because most of what you’re getting in are re applications?

DT replied 1 year ago   #596

Have there been any waivers granted for someone who had undocumented presence over 180 days, resulting in a 10 year ban? No other convictions, not even a speeding ticket. Voluntarily moved to Canada without US immigration ever knowing. Only got the ban because I tried to apply for a visitor visa from Canada and was truthful about my time in the US.

I am 5 years through the 10 year ban after spending 10 or 11 years in the US undocumented. I got my Canadian citizenship last year and applied for the waiver in November, so hopefully will hear back around March. It seems like a lot of these waivers are for old crimes that resulted in inadmissibility in general, not a determined length of a ban.

Slothdude replied 1 year ago   #595

Note one of these was granted 8 days ago, but the client just realized now. Both are re-applications. The bottom one had a 1 year waiver, now a 5.

5 year waiver

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1/12/2023, 08:30 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
9/9/2022, 09:00 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/17/2022, 11:29 AM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/17/2022, 11:28 AM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/17/2022, 09:52 AM EDT : Application Created

5 year waiver

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Status History (5)
1/19/2023, 05:00 PM EST : Status changed to Completed
9/17/2022, 11:46 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/14/2022, 02:39 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/14/2022, 02:38 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/30/2022, 02:47 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #594

5 YEAR WAIVER
MISREPRESENTATION in 2000 (fake visa) AND 2005 (someone else's passport)
Had a 1 year waiver, this is a re-application.

Status History (5)
1/19/2023, 09:30 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
9/17/2022, 11:46 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/8/2022, 03:53 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/8/2022, 03:52 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/8/2022, 10:00 AM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #593

5 year waiver. He had a 1 year before the pandemic.
2010 Schedule II for the purpose of Trafficking.
2010 Possession of Property Obtained by Crime under $5000

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Status History (5)
1/19/2023, 11:00 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
9/17/2022, 11:46 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/26/2022, 02:21 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/26/2022, 02:19 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/26/2022, 10:46 AM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #592

@Tiffany

Yes, more time will help absolutely.

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #591

@Kev great for you. I haven’t applied yet but I’m here almost every day because I’m hoping that someone would share a successful story similar to my situation.

Tiffany replied 1 year ago   #590

@Tiffany I’m only at 30 days since I applied hopefully I won’t have these issues, but my case seem a slam dunk

Kev replied 1 year ago   #589

@J Rogers sounds like a very difficult one. Do you think the client would be able to reapply at some points?

Tiffany replied 1 year ago   #588

Not all the waivers I do are success stories. This client had a very difficult case. Sexual assault. 2012. 3 year sentence.

TRIGGER WARNING - Before you go forward, please remember, I am not making excuses, or minimizing this offence. I try my hardest for each client, I take their explanations at face value, and my intention is to help them. Trauma is real, and I truly believe that survivors of SA NEVER get real justice.

I also know there or people out there who have difficult situations, and I hope sharing this will give insight into the possibilities of getting, or not getting a waiver.

The case was problematic for 2 reasons.
1. The client insisted he was innocent. The victim was his ex-wife and he claimed she used this as fuel to get a divorce, because he had caught her having an affair. Just before she charged him, they had a huge fight about the proceeds of their house sale, where she wanted her "half" and he argued that this was basically an admission that they were going to end the marriage.
2. Even in jail, the client had insisted he was innocent. But after 2 years, they would not release him unless he took programs, admitted his guilt, and fully embraced rehabilitation. He took this because he wanted to see his kids, and also his mother from India was a widow and was suffering in Canada alone.

On the plus side
- He had tons of rehabilitation. I have never had a client who had so much paperwork with therapists notes, evaluations, and tons of documents saying that he was a low risk to re-offend.
-I wrote the letter and we hit all the right notes with insisting he was not guilty, but still expressing the fact that after he caught the wife having an affair, he was still bitter and unable to let it go, so he probably was not a very good husband after that
-The actual allegation of rape was centered around him having anal sex despite her reluctance, so although a sexual assault, it was not in the category of a violent sexual assault. Despite this, we expressed remorse, sympathy for victims of sexual assault, and an acknowledgement that SA survivors have lasting trauma.

The first time the client applied, he missed the response, so we went under the assumption he probably got rejected or 1 year. Instead of paying more money to re-open the case, it was cheaper to re-apply, and he only had to play the $585USD. I did not charge him to re-do the application.

The result? Partially "not enough time" but the adjudicator was more conflicted by the mixed message. "I didn't do it", but he was found guilty, and the appeal also failed, and he got a fairly big sentence. Also, his reluctance to accept responsibility for 2 years, coupled with him explaining he was only pleading guilty to get out of jail. Also, this tainted his participation in programs, because it looked less like he "learned" from it, and was just giving lip service. I obviously tried hard to explain that once he was in the programs, his perspective changed and he had a new understanding of what victims of SA go through and his own responsibility in the whole situation.

Sorry for the long post. I hope this gives people more insight into a difficult case.

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Status History (5)
1/19/2023, 08:00 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
5/12/2022, 08:30 AM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
5/5/2022, 05:01 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
5/5/2022, 04:59 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
4/19/2022, 01:50 PM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #587

@J Rogers thank you.

Orlando replied 1 year ago   #586

@Orlando

When I say "normal" i really mean waivers that are granted in the average timeline, no need to ask for further information, no need to send it to a supervisor.

Excluded from "normal" would be anything where more documents are requested, or even an I-212. Also September Letters, and waivers that are sent to a supervisor or rejected. Also anyone asked to see a panel doctor.

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #585

@J Rogers what’s considered normal application in your experience? Is a ban easier to obtain a waiver for apposed to theft, fraud or a drug offense?

Orlando replied 1 year ago   #584

2 waivers, note the dates are September 14th and 17th that they went to the border, so for "normal" applications, they are about 115-121 days.
Both of these clients had 5 year waivers in the past.

5 YEAR WAIVER

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Status History (5)
1/18/2023, 10:00 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
9/17/2022, 11:46 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
8/22/2022, 06:27 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
8/22/2022, 06:25 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
8/10/2022, 01:16 PM EDT : Application Created

5 year waiver

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Status History (5)
1/18/2023, 10:30 AM EST : Status changed to Completed
9/14/2022, 02:31 PM EDT : Status changed to Submitted to ARO
9/1/2022, 04:53 PM EDT : Status changed to Paid
9/1/2022, 04:51 PM EDT : Status changed to Signed
9/1/2022, 09:37 AM EDT : Application Created

J Rogers replied 1 year ago   #583

@Survivaldependsonit Hi Ken. The fact that you go through these lengths to actually create fake profiles to boost your own ego and defend yourself is absolutely shameful. The definition of fraud is you. Your behavior is absolutely criminal and the authorities have been made aware of your actions. Look at your face, your voice, the way you speak, and overall demeanor. You are a very ill person mentally and are beyond childlike in every sense. In one of your videos you actually eat and chomp down on a salad, during the video! This alone is beyond comprehension. Simply astounding. You're going down, and soon. Your entity doesn't exist, you have no office, and soon everyone will be aware of your past, present and future criminal actions.

Michael0879 replied 1 year ago   #582

@J Rogers loves Trudeau. Don’t trust him.

Survivaldependsonit replied 1 year ago   #581

@J Rogers thank for the clarification that would be amazing, in my application my court record showed I was convicted under the youth division and I am cleared to enter DoD secret building from homeland so finger crossed

Kev replied 1 year ago   #580

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